Live Journal Daily Answers, 17 December 2004

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The answers are a bit early this week. Consider it your holiday bonus.


"i was so glad to see this particular set of questions here today, so glad i almost went pee." - beansidhe

Here at the LJDQ, we live to bring urine-inducing gladness to all of LiveJournal. This week, we've taken a substantial step in that direction, going from 280 to 355 watchers. +1 to trishalynn for pimping us out on metaquotes & +1 to sskipstress for re-writing the Sk8r Boi lyrics that were quoted. As for all you n00bs who are playing for the first time this week, welcome aboard! We're glad to have you here.

To handle the growing numbers of Answers and also to be prepared for an upcoming long absence by chaosvizier, today we are introducing fizrep as our LJDQ Guest Moderator. He was a long-time player of the Original Daily Quiz & is a funny guy. So say hi to everyone, fizrep!

FR: Hi everyone!
Everyone: HI!

Now ... the Answers.

1. One of the most famous stadiums in the world, what is the name of the building where the Roman emperors put on spectacles to entertain the populace?

"Yankee Stadium. Y'know, where all the fans make spectacles out of themselves." - theworryrock

(Only when Boston is playing. -CV)

"Television! (C'mon, is nobody else here a fan of Mojoverse?)" - 3jane

(Number of X-Men fans in audience... anyone? Anyone? -CV)

(Lots of you opted to PUN on the word "spectacle". A frown from me to all of you. -AL)

"Obviously. What I really want to know is why putting on spectacles is so entertaining? Did they do it in a funny way or did they use amusing pairs of glasses? (I now have visions of a Roman emperor in toga, standing in the middle of the Coliseum wearing Groucho Marx glasses and waving a cigar in the air – 'Either this Christian is dead or my sundial has stopped!')" - m31andy

(You & beansidhe are sharing visions. -AL)

"And the spectacles! Why, I can think of several ancient paintings depicting Augustus wearing Groucho-glasses, and Nero flaunting a delightful pair of cats-eyes." - beansidhe

"Lenscrafters. They put on spectacles in about an hour." - binderbright

"WOAH!!! Putting on SPECTACLES?!! That's like... WAY more entertaining than football." - kaptainsarcasm

(-1!! American football is the greatest sport ever invented!! -AL)

(I'm voting for Tonsil Hockey as the greatest sport ever invented. -FR)

"I can never get over how unoriginal those Romans were, naming something after the stadium in Oakland, CA." - dougygyro

"I'd like to know how they had "navel battles" in there." - moocow1985

(The Battle Of The Belly Bulge was a popular reenactment back then... -CV)

"Ok, wait- I can see it in my head. And there area bunch of busses driving past it. And a kid on a bike.... NO KID, DON'T CROSS YET!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!" - ninchica7

(Ok, ok... so I pushed the kid. He was sassy. -FR)

"Sunday! Sunday! Sunday! Come on down to the Colleseum for a monster chariot rally and tractor pull." - chrysoberyl

"The Colosseum, home of the fighting Colossiators. They have the best half-time show ever, consisting of Christians fighting lions!" - trishalynn

"I think a much needed makeover is due. Imagine 'The Caesar-Dome', with retractable roof plates and Jumbo-Vision at each end." - persephone3434

"Oooh. Now I want to play Civ II. All your wonders are belong to me! Hanging Gardens? I build it! Lighthouse? I build it! Great Library? I build it! So much I learned about history from that game and all of it wrong... Colosseum -- I build it!" - sasscat

Correct Answer: the Coliseum.

"Unbeknownst to most people, the fall of Rome was actually precipitated when the emporors signed a 4-year contract to have Celine Dion perform there nightly. That was simply too much 'spectacle' for the populace to tolerate." - ashfault76

"I heard the lines for the bathrooms were a real bitch." - vanbrosia

(Urinals having not been invented for another 2000 years, yes, it did make the intermission bio break quite a challenge... -CV)


2. What is the name of the 1959 classic starring Charlton Heston as a wealthy Jewish citizen who takes revenge for his wrongful imprisonment upon Messala, the Roman governor of Judea? (Hint: The answer is NOT Gladiator, as Ang categorically refuses to ask a question about that sub-par film.)

"I don't understand your hatred for Gladiator.. I mean its got Cuba Gooding jr in it.. AND Robert Loggia.. who forces children to drink orange juice... I bet Heston couldn't make a better movie about teenage underground boxing." - tarpo

(Fair enough. Full credit. -CV)

(Making kids drink juice is ALWAYS funny. -FR)

(Extra credit to anyone who can come up with a link to the appropriate Penny Arcade comic. Their website was down while we were preparing the Answers, or we would have included it ourselves. -AL)

"gladiator isnt a sub-par film. Its just scriptorially challenged!" - _j0k3r_

"I'm just going to excempt myself from that question as I WASN'T EVEN ALIVE THEN! Dude. My parents were each only 1 year old. I suddenly feel young again!" - sideviewhotel

(Man am I SICK of this particular excuse. I'm so sick of it, I'm tempted to make a NEW GODDAMNED RULE banning Quizlings from whining about us asking about things that happened before they were born. Hello! This week's theme is ANCIENT ROME. It ALL happened before you were born! Whoever said you weren't responsible for learning anything if it happened before YOU appeared on the world's stage?!? Now stop pissing off your cranky moderator & answer the %$#&*@ question. -AL)

(Feeling a little ... crabby? ::crabs clicky motions:: -FR)

(That's it. From now on, Ang is cut off after her fifth cup of coffee. -CV)

"The Diary of Anne Frank. Heston played a beautiful Anne Frank and got his revenge by way of 2 machine guns opening fire on the small town of Venice." - theworryrock

(Impressively random. +1. -AL)

"The Ten Cold Dead Fingers You'll Have To Pry My Gun From" - ninchica7

(That was Bowling For Columbine, I believe. -CV)

"'The History Channel Presents: The First NRA Meeting.'
Heston: 'Messala, I'd like you to meet my shotgun, Spartacus.' *BAM!*" - jelymo

"Why is it that 'Moses' is the only thing I can think of. 'Planet of the Apes'! Err. No. Crap. Actually, that's probably it. Yes. I'm sticking with Crap" - roadparty

"Planet of the Rapes (don't drop the soap)" - gnomeprincess

"Aw hell, that's the one with the chariot race, isn't it? Now I can't guess "The Ten Commandments" in good conscience. No chariot races there (unless you count Egyptians vs. Red Sea. There's cheating in that race too)." - gleefulfreak

(Acts Of God (tm) are not really considered cheating. It's God, after all. He can do whatever the hell he wants. Cheeky God. -CV)

(Don't make me come down there, boy. -God)

(I'll be good. -CV)

"Sparticus! (Sparaticus. Spareparticus?) Am I right? Cuz if I am, I assure you, it’s because I pulled it out of my ass." - kokopellinelli

(Trust not the ass of kokopellinelli, for it will lead you ass-tray. -CV)

(God, I hate you so much. -AL)

"I vaguely remember cheering for the leprosy, and I think Jesus showed up at the end, so maybe that's wrong." - prettypinkkitty

"Does 'Messala' make anyone else think 'Mmmm...chicken...'? Or is that just me?" - gossamer_gull

(It didn't until you said it, but NOW I'm hungry. Mmmm ... chicken marsala. -AL)

"Ben Hur. Nascar for the ancients." - siobhan1214

"Ben Hur (and its adult film counter part, Bend Hur Over.)" - jmspencer

"Crouching Ben Hur, Hidden Homoeroticism" - 3jane

(Dare I ask what the green sword symbolizes? -FR)

"Pointess trivia of the day: the bloke who played Messala apparently played his role as a spurned lover, Judah Ben Hur and Messala having been lovers as teenagers, according to the the scriptwriters. Heston was not informed at the time, presumably because he would've freaked." - bubosquared

Correct Answer: Ben-Hur.

"BEN HUR, the movie which has instance after instance of moments where you think it's going to end, but it never does." - goat003

(Christ, that sounds like marraige to my ex. -1 to you for tormenting me. -FR)


3. What does the phrase "veni, vidi, vici" translate into?

"We saw, we conquered, we came" - scads of you. Perverts.

"I saw, I came, on her face" - silent_r_infork
"I came, in your ass, HAHA!" - sideviewhotel

(Someone always has to push it a little further. -CV)

"I saw, I conquered, I came. ::leers at AL and CV::" - ataralas

(Woohoo, we got a pervy stalker! -AL&CV)

(I volunteered for what? -FR)

"Speaking of Latin and porn, did you know that the word 'Vagina' literally means sheath. for a sword. Friggin Romans and their sick sense of humour." - jelymo

"I bought a soda, watched a video, and have a Mafia uncle." - dexfarkin

"'We Came, We Saw, We Kicked It's Ass!'" - not quite as many of you.

(Obviously, we have more perverts here than Ghostbusters fans. -CV)

(+1 to you all for the movie quote. -AL)

"I came, I saw, I got hot sauce in my eye. Man does that sting." - chrysoberyl

"In wine there is truth. No, it's the other one, isn't it? Seize the carp." - sasscat

"Not to be confused with veni, vidi, visa- Though around this time of year, I suppose shopping can be a conquest of sorts" - ninchica7

"I drank, I saw someone cute, I had mad sex." - nihilistbear

"BEER BEER BEER." - lynbug

(They don't speak Latin in Australia, mate. -FR)

"Wine, women, and video tapes!" - fuunsaiki

"I think Caesar was referring to his man-bitch, Marc Anthony." - prettypinkkitty

"Pronounced “Weni, widi, wichi” because v-sounds weren’t invented yet." - kokopellinelli
"so it really sounded like some child molester wispering weni.... widi.... wici in the night." - lucency

"I came here to kick ass and chew bubblegum. I'm all outta gum." - thereject

(+1, Army of Darkness. -CV)

"hey! hey! hey!" - phlegm_noir

(Often uttered by Albertus Gigantus, who tried to bring good morals to urban kids in Rome's South Side. -CV)

Correct Answer: "I came, I saw, I conquered."

"Doesn't everybody know that?" - silent_sibyl

(You're new here, aren't you? Well, you'll figure out soon enough that there is no question so easy that someone won't be stumped. See Exhibit 1, below. -AL)

"I actually knew this one at one point. This could only mean one thing. Work is sapping me of the precious few bits of intelligence I had. I must quit work now, for my own good." - roadparty


4. What were the Roman names for the far-distant lands now known as a) Ireland and b) Scotland?

"This is some Ken Jenning's shit right here." - jasonishungry

"Now there’s another pseudo-historical film we can mock. Braveheart – in which the Scots were actually depicted as, well, Picts. Dude, blue body paint was SO a thousand years ago ..." - dhaunea

(Near Stirling, Scotland, there's a statue of William Wallace that bears an unusually strong resemblance to Mel Gibson. It's enclosed in a cage to protect it from the irate locals. Rumor has it that drunken nighttime revelry in Stirling occasionally includes climbing onto the cage & pissing on Mel. -AL)

"Terra Eire and Terra Scot. Terra means land, right?" - fyreflyblue

(Good improvisation. Completely off, but a laudable effort. -CV)

(I think someone pulled that answer out of their Dairy Eire. -FR)

"The kingdom of FAR FAR Away, Donkey? That's where we're going! FAR! FAR!... away." - roadparty

(+1, Shrek 2. -CV)

"a) Far Far Away
b) Not Quite As Far Away, But Still Bloody Out There" - ninchica7

"There was this short lived TV series about Irish fighters battling the invading Romans, and at the time it was on I knew the answers to this, but now all I remember was how hot the chick was." - mcclintock

"By the gods, Marcus, they're wearing skirts!" - jmspencer

(The Roman legions wore skirts too, you know. Skirts were all the manly rage at the time. -AL)

"Lands of man in skirt with sexy accent (terra yummis mannis accentis)" - alleged_cuban

"Damn Scots! They ruined Scotland!" - nihilicious

(+1, The Simpsons. -CV)

"The Romans never saw anybody in Ireland in the winter and thus assumed they were all hibernating. So they named the country Hibernia. Scotland was named Caledonia for no particular reason." - demongrrrrl

(Might've had something to do with the Caledonii tribe that lived there. Then again, maybe I'm drawing connections where there really are none. -AL)

"There was many a legend of how the people of these lands were born out of vats of alcohol as most Romans couldn't tell the men from the women (not that it mattered much to them, really. Romans bang or kill anything)." - whiski_sour

(As the original QuizMaster said, "God bless 'em." -FR)

"I need to think back to my old Asterix comic books. ... Nope, nothing. Dammit. Those Romans are crazy!" - vanbrosia

(+1 to you and anyone else who read Asterix comic books. You're a cultured lot. -CV)

"a. Bizzarro Rome" - phlegm_noir

"b:hona-lee" - lucency

(I had no idea Puff The Magic Dragon was Scottish... -CV)

"The Caesarian Section?" - diimmortales

(Cut that out, mister. -FR)

"I actually know these! Ireland was called Hibernia, meaning 'land where people drink so much they pass out for the whole winter,' and Scotland was called Caledonia, meaning 'land with lots and lots of sheep.' That was the only thing I learned in Honors Chemistry last year. It's a long story." - muzzyfeverlint

"Collectively called TEH CRAZEES for painting their hair with lime and running into battle sans underwear." - _tumblweed

"Scotland was, incongruously, "Otlandscay." (I'll bet you're just Dublin over with laughter over that answer, eh?)" - gossamer_gull

"Helvetica and Lucida Casual." - aki

(A joke involving font styles is beyond reproach. -CV)

Correct Answer: a) Hibernia and b) Caledonia.

"Seriously, Hadrian, why the hell are you so interested in the place? It's too far away for a summer cottage." - ashfault76


5. What does it mean if someone is said to be “crossing the Rubicon”? ***EXTRA CREDIT*** Where does this saying come from?

[insert Rubik's Cube joke here] - oodles of you.

"They're making an effort that they never made before, doing something really special-- it's from when, um, one of the Caesars crossed the river Rubicon to, um... do battle with his ancient ally, Octavian? Something to do with a Triumvirate, anyway." - silent_sybil

(No, not quite, sort of, yes, no, no, and no. Good effort, though. -CV)

"Why did the chicken cross the Rubicon? To figure out the meaning of the obscure phrase on the other side." - silent_r_infork

"Clearly it comes from the Rubicon and the fact that people cross it. God, what do you think we are? Morons?" - allieg

(Well... -FR)

"It means getting to third base on your date." - mcclintock

('Stabbing Caesar' is a home run, for the record. -FR)

"It's when you trade in your Clay Aiken icon for a Ruben Studdard icon. This saying comes from the three no-talent assclowns; Paula Abdul, Simon Cowell, and Randy "I Like Little Girls" Jackson; telling one anorexic no-talent assclown and one morbidly obese no-talent assclown that they can sing." - _lucy_

(American Idol hatred. Full credit. -CV)

"masturbating through a condom" - phlegm_noir

"It still sounds like something out of a Sci-Fi channel movie to me, though. 'We must cross the Rubicon to get away from the giant mutant cricket spiders!' 'No! We can't! Crossing the Rubicon is bad! Did you see Ghostbusters?!'" - whiski_sour

"It means a Rubicon is being crossed. It comes from crossing a Rubicon." - frodaish

(Not just a Rubicon. THE Rubicon. Makes a difference. -CV)

"I know that Ceaser crossed the Rubicon river at some point or another because I was in the musical "The World According to Snoopy" in 9th grade and there is a song where they are watching clouds and deciding that the clouds look like historical events. Now, when I watch clouds, I see things like Q-Tips or whipped cream. So I kind of wonder what Lucy and Linus were on..." - chrysoberyl

(I often find myself wondering what YOU are on, chyrsoberyl. Whatever it is, you should share. -AL)

"It comes from Caesar Julius crossing the Rubicon River into Rome with his army to overthrow the Republic and establish himself as Emperor. And then he appointed a Sith Lord, and declared that there could be only two Sith Lords at any time, even though Episodes 5-6 involve two Sith Lords trying to recruit a third Sith Lord." - binderbright

(This movie sounds much more appealing than The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones put together. -CV)

"'Crossing the Rubicon'? Is that like flogging the dolphin? Pounding the pork? Spanking the monkey? Dating Pinky and her 4 sisters? Churning the butter? Badgering the witness? Doing the Pee Wee shuffle? Doing the hand jive? Making yourself blind? Drilling for oil? Helping Mr. Kleenex put the kids through collage? Liquidating the inventory? Patting the Robertson? Cocking the gun? Playing solitaire? Finding the secret sauce? Rubbing the magic lamp? Taking a load off? Polishing Vader's helmet? Using the joystick? Performing a flute solo? Wrestling with Cyclops? Basting the turkey? Winning the jackpot on the one-eyed bandit? Picking up a pound of pork at the zippermarket?" - richcsigs

(Purging the Red Army? Annointing the bishop? Oyling the Popeye? -FR)

"So, there was this guy, JC. No, not that JC. Julius 'Nobody-likes-you!' Caesar. And he was stuck in France craving pasta, because he was on Atkins. So he decided to hop over to Italy and score some penne al' arrabiata, but the River Rubicon was all like, 'whoa! Not without the magic word.' And Caesar was all like, 'WTFBBQBURRITO!!!ONE!!1!!' And a big ol' guy appeared on the far bank and said, 'd00d, c'mon! I got us a table at Bertucci's already!' And Caesar was all, 'forget it, sucka. We's over here playin' dice now. I'm winnin' me some MAD BLING, yo!' And Caesar's troops were all like, 'PIZZA!' and went across the river anyway. And the Rubicon was all like, 'yeah, well, STFU biyotches, you ain't never get back over me.' And, Caesar was all like, 'who cares? I like pasta. I'm-a stayin' here!' And after that there was an incident with a knife and some senators and a plumber in red overalls, but that's a different saying." - _tumblweed

"Rubicon was also Starscream's rival for power after Megatron, and you don't want to cross him unless you want a plamsa beam in the teeth" - dexfarkin

(+1, nostalgia. +1 more for giving cred to Starscream. -FR)

Correct Answer: "The saying comes from the time near the end of the Roman Republic, when Caesar marched on Rome (and, more to the point, on Pompeius, who had declared Caesar an enemy of the state and had ordered the general to resign his command). Caesar, being a stubborn bastard who refused to accept Pompeius' authority as dictator (as opposed to one of a pair of consuls--I'll spare you the diversion, but putting one man in charge of Rome, during the time of the Republic, was completely unheard of, and to Caesar, that alone was reason to consider rebellion).

Caesar took his army from Gaul into Italy, and then to Rome, and the crossing of the Rubicon took him into Italy proper, an act of treason there was no turning back from; from that moment, he had no choice but to continue his march on Rome. This is also the incident that historically had him say the famous 'Alia iacta est': 'The die is cast.'" - bubosquared

(Now that's a good answer. Good enough to earn you this week's Geek of the Week Award. -1 for you! -AL)


6. Latin is often used for mottos. So what would be your motto (Latin, English, or any other language accepted)?

"this LJDQ's motto would have to be Maximorvm Mentionis Pote Caesarvm, roughly translated as: 'as many references to Caesar as possible.'" - dougygyro

"Wisconsin doesn't exist." - ellenneithernor

(Oh, how Ang wishes that were true. -CV)

(I think it might be more that Wisconsin wishes I didn't exist. At least, certain citizens of Wisconsin might wish that. -AL)

"'What's a motto?' 'I dunno - what's a motto with you?'" - cloakedstoat

"'Quod me vexari?' -- Alfredus AE. Newmanicus" - ciorstan

"'Utinam coniurati te in foro interficiant!' - May conspirators assassinate you in the mall!" - naturalredhead

"Quid Quid Latine Dictum Sit, Altum Viditur (anything said in Latin sounds profound)" - ciara_belle

"Carpe Horrea (Sieze the whorehose)" - lucency

"Don't eat anything green and fuzzy." - silent_r_infork

"'Mottos suck.'" - robyn_ma

"Be a flirt, lift your shirt" - lots42

(Get a move on, ladies! -FR)

"Fabricati diem, pvnc." - rokeon, thisisbullcrap

"EXSULTATIO! ITERUM ME AMAT! IN SOLUM CADO ET RIDEO!
("Jubilation! She loves me again! I fall on the floor and I'm laughing!")" - gossamer_gull

(Pavlvs Simonivs and Artvrvs Garfvnkelicvs, the hippies of Ancient Rome, live at the Coliseum. -CV)

"Can I just be a complete poncy show-off and mention that my motto in Esperanto is 'ne gravas' which means 'no worries'" - dracothelizard

(The use of Esperanto is the only thing that could be more geeky than using Klingon. Allow me to direct you here for more Esperanto loving. -CV)

"The Obvious Often Eludes Me" - krick

"Never get involved in a land war in Asia." - prettypinkkitty

(+1, The Princess Bride. -CV)

"Get back to me after I snort some coke and maybe I'll think of an interesting answer involving ninja monkeys with deadly poisoned swords fighting to the death." - frodaish

(+1, ninja monkeys. -FR)

"'Life sucks dead rats. Then the dead rats suck on you'... but latinized." - edincoat

"Amor Omnia Vincit. Love conquers all. Cheesy, but that's the kind of mood I'm in." - lotusbiosm

"'When I get that feelin', I want sexual healin'.' R.I.P. Marvin Gaye." - jasonishungry

"Fuck this, I Can't Be Bothered. Once you adopt it as your motto, you will find that you say it at least five times a day. Especially when attempting to be funny in your answers for the LJDQ." - meandstuff

"Never eat anything bigger than your own head." - phfa

(This reminds me of a time when dancingsaracen ate a fifty-ounce steak in under an hour. That was a pretty big fucking steak. -CV)

(I was there. I think he ate the waitress. -FR)

"Easy, but not cheap." - sskipstress

(I got a Ben Franklin with your name on it. -FR)

"'I am not in this world to live up to other people's expectations, nor do I feel that the world must live up to mine.' -Fritz Perls" - ninchica7

(Some of you did not include translations for your multilingual catchphrases, so we're providing them free of charge. You can thank us later. -AL, CV & FR)

"Carpe Canem" - jmspencer

(Seize the cane.)

"Illiud Latine dici non potest." - the_headhunter

(The guy who wrote The Iliad in Latin? Impotent.)

"Semper ubi sub ubi" - gleefulfreak

(Sit, Ubu, sit. Good dog.)

"Maneno, Matendo, Mavi" - mshenzi

(I manned, I mated, I moved.)

"SI NON CONFECTUS NON REFICIAT" - beansidhe

(If no confectioner's sugar is on hand, refined sugar will do.)

"Je ne suis pas d'accord avec ce que vous dites, mais je me battrai jusqu'au bout pour que vous puissiez le dire." - ridicully

(In accordance with the prophecy, France has been renamed to The Land Of Buttered Pussy.)

"lapis restat" - peithecelt

(Restart the bunny.)

"catapultae proscribeantur tum soli proscripti catapultas habeant" - thereject

(You cannot research Advanced Catapults until you have researched Catapults.)

"Regina inutilis notitientium sum!" - bubosquared

(The Queen is notably useless at addition.)

"Noli me tangere (non tu, babe)." - stephe

(No, I'm tangy. Not you.)

Aaaaaaanyway, that's all we've got this week. We had CVII (hopefully, that's 107 in Roman numerals) Quizlings playing this week's Quiz, a new record for us! Help us achieve our goal of having CD (that's 400) Quizlings by the end of the year - promote the LJDQ on your personal journals! And have a good weekend, all of you.

Rock on,

AL&CV&FR.

Comments

[bubosquared.livejournal.com]

*sniffs* I'm so proud. In celebration, here's that picture of me and what I broke in re: last week's fourth question:

[chaosvizier.livejournal.com]

Your destructive tendencies are good in our eyes. Hopefully that was a free AOL 4597805421 free hours demo CD.

[bubosquared.livejournal.com]

Just wrongly burnt, actually. I was tempted to download a bunch of That Chick's songs and burn them to CD just to have the satisfaction of snapping it, but my computer already has this habit of downloading stuff on its own (that's my story about why I have John Denver songs on my HD and I'm sticking to it) and I didn't want to give it ideas.

[chaosvizier.livejournal.com]

Your computer likes John Denver, eh? Maybe you should have broken it instead of the CD it made for you...

[bubosquared.livejournal.com]

As soon as I can afford to buy a new computer, I'm throwing a party and ritually reformatting the harddrive so as to remove every single trace of Bill Gates.

[chaosvizier.livejournal.com]

I hear he now has cloned molecules of his DNA used in the manufacture of all motherboards and expansion cards. Gates is everywhere! He sees all things!

[bubosquared.livejournal.com]

That would explain why Windows keeps throwing hissy fits. He probably found the Pirates of Sillicon Valley slash on my HD.

[bubosquared.livejournal.com]

'sides, I live in Scotland, we don't get AOL CDs over here.

[chaosvizier.livejournal.com]

Hmmm... so that means that Scotland Online would be SOL? How interesting...